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what's up everybody how you doing

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it is good to see you this friday

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afternoon

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um

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i had a pretty cool thing happen

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yesterday

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uh which is a

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um scheduled an interview with

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um senator harry reid

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um so that's pretty cool um that is

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gonna be on tuesday

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at noon

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so make sure you don't

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miss that it's going to be a great

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conversation

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i can tell you that

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i look very much forward to speaking

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with the senator

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um

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he's somewhat of a hero

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and

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he's a badass

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so i can't wait to talk with him um

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he'll have a lot more

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you know he he

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there's a lot more that i want to ask

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and talk to him about than an hour can

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provide but

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i am very grateful to have any time with

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this man

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he could make

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that's why we're here today

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um so

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i look very much forward to that but

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today

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talk about the

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lubak lights

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which is pretty interesting i love the

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way i learn about things right so i

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learned about this

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um the lubbock lights just looking at

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general documents that i have downloaded

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on my website actually and it's in the

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specific osi district you know so they

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have all the reports of the district and

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that folder and i have about 30 of them

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so i randomly picked one today

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check it out and it was a district for

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texas

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literally the first report that stuck

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out to me

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was this one the lubach lights um

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and of course you know i did all my

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research and looked through everything

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and found out

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blue box lights the photo oh yeah that's

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where it's from

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it's pretty cool

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i'm not sure if people have looked at

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the official documents of this stuff

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or not

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but regardless we're going to

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do it

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um i'll say what's up to everybody first

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spaghetti lee what's happening

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uh ethereal aura

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what's up

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robert

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fabit engage alex what is up

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um robert all right zero cool why me i'm

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not sure thanks for

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popping in though

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i like the ocean too uh maybe i'll bring

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that back next time

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i wanted to do a new pretty cool intro

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with the ocean and new song and stuff

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but i just ran out of time so

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you know looking into this kind of just

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and jc cross is another i'm not sure who

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um carl hart jr was the one who took the

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you know on top of those three

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professors there were four more

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more there's a lot more dates thrown

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around in these documents than three

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um so but it's hard to discern at first

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the lubach morning uh avalanche was the

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swamped with calls

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about this stuff so we definitely know a

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the best part the photographs

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the photographs only made it i guess

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and then there was a hunt for the

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originals

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repeatedly interrogating carl hart jr

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um photographed it

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pretty interesting and it is 1951 robert

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a cool fact

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april 1949 virginia identical

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very interesting you know not

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less than a year after this lubock

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lights we have the dc

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these years are busy with ufos and it

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i mean and that's why i keep

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covering these cases one is

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i don't know about a lot of them and i'm

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educating myself in in doing this you

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and it just so happens that the people

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are who are here and join me

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enjoy uh this stuff too which is great

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but it's also very important to me that

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when i do learn these cases or do learn

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different things i come in with an

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unbiased perspective i don't come in

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from somebody else's pre-prepared news

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i don't come in as a skeptic

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i come in kind of in the middle you know

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because i don't believe all these either

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spaghetti you put up a good point it

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only goes away because they stop

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maybe they didn't stop reporting them to

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the media but the media may have stopped

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reporting them right

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possibly but anyways um so

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investigating which i first actually

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and the air material command put it on

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reese air force base

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and an intelligence officer there to get

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those real quick they're black and white

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they're interesting and i'll tell you

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the most interesting part about these

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photographs to me

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there was a photographer william hands

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of the lubach morning avalanche that

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the flag v formation because obviously

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everyone said it's birds right

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and guess what he was unsuccessful

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by taking photos of birds

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and i get it the bird thing you know

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yeah you see them doing this but you

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seen a really strange phenomenon the

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light reflections and that could be true

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muddled i guess but

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there's definitely enough witnesses here

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so this one it's interesting i wonder

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if you just moved the camera quick right

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is that them moving fast because if

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so what comes to mind when you see this

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but it shows you

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how images

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can all be identical

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and look to be in a triangular formation

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and not be bokeh

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you know sometimes there's more than one

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explanation for things

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you know

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other people that believe the bokeh

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you know more power to you but that

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doesn't mean

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because it makes sense to you that it's

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the only explanation for what you're

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because in order to actually understand

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the correct explanation you'd have to be

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a lot smarter than you are or have a lot

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more information

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so and these are funny i i don't know

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looks like he's wearing a referee shirt

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but i think this is carl hart jr or

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something

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quick the most interesting one to me

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and here we go

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quick you see

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um rupelt was uh heavily involved with

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this he actually made a special chapter

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in his book

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birds right

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um but he later changed his mind

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and what he said was extremely

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interesting

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if i can uh find it there's only a few

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rupelt it's it's really neat like going

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back into these papers and you know

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the names

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of people i hear or have read about

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this is pretty interesting they give you

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texas weather observation

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for that day estimated ceiling five

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some data for you

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well

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this is what root belt did so rouvelt

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was testing a theory over and over and

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over again until finally they hit the

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jackpot which was figuring out a natural

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phenomenon that would cause these lights

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but he couldn't tell anyone

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what that was because it would give that

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person's name

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but rupaul said he was very very

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confident that's what it was i have no

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idea what kind of natural phenomenon

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if you guys know let me know

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so why would he say that

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we got some stuff on the pictures here

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just imagine if we had like um

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smartphones then

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man

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it's like these aliens or secret

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projects that's this is definitely not a

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secret project or any of these things

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like it's like they know

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that okay there's a lot more cameras

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around now so we can't

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do this stuff in front of a bunch of

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people anymore like

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you know we need to have another mass

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sighting now with all these phones

328
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that's what i think

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i think that would be good for

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so

331
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this is a great case because it's still

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pretty great

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oh the two women here it is this is a

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good one so

335
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i'm just going to read this whole thing

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here because

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it's pretty descriptive so

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these two women apparently just that saw

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a flying wing and i didn't put it

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together until i watched something else

341
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that

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they may have saw something different

343
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and rupaul even said that we had a

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secret uh plane or whatever that was a

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flying wing

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at matador texas two women mrs blank and

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her daughter mrs blank were alleged to

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have observed a wingless type aircraft

349
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traveling at a low altitude and low

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speed

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this craft allegedly passed within 150

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feet of their automobile

353
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then rose rapidly and was out of sight

354
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within a few minutes

355
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mom and daughter were alleged to have

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reported being near enough to the

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unidentified object to observe one door

358
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or porthole

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in the metal side of the aircraft

360
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since the initial sighting of the

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alleged objects many reports similar in

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nature have been received by the

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editorial offices

364
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of lubac avalanche journal

365
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and according to this new source

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speculation as to the nature of the

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phenomenon apparently is causing

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so

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the interesting thing there is yeah

370
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robert so

371
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whoops portal yeah

372
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maybe not right

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so

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military

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there would be a sound right there is no

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sound

377
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and again these reports all have the

378
00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:22,480
same thing no sound no means of

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propulsion

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incredible speeds

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people

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like

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wake up

384
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so eh you know

385
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and the special agent with osi was

386
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howard

387
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something

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so

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that's pretty

390
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much it

391
00:20:01,430 --> 00:19:59,520
it's just interesting how

392
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you know different formations and even

393
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different objects

394
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of the phenomenon and everything just

395
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and i

396
00:20:22,230 --> 00:20:19,669
you know i was watching lou and max

397
00:20:28,310 --> 00:20:22,240
right max made this documentary of

398
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and it was inspiring it was beautiful

399
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lou

400
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it's time to grow

401
00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:42,390
you know

402
00:20:47,590 --> 00:20:43,840
and if you don't grow you get left

403
00:20:52,710 --> 00:20:50,390
i don't like having fomo so

404
00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:52,720
i'm going to try to grow right and i

405
00:20:55,590 --> 00:20:54,320
don't know where this goes i don't know

406
00:20:58,070 --> 00:20:55,600
where i'm going

407
00:20:59,830 --> 00:20:58,080
i don't know where i'll be in a year

408
00:21:03,990 --> 00:20:59,840
i don't know where this topic will be in

409
00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:05,590
but i'm trying to grow that's all you

410
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,190
i'm trying my best

411
00:21:19,590 --> 00:21:17,190
i'm not in it for money i'm in it to

412
00:21:21,900 --> 00:21:19,600
help if i was in it for money i wouldn't

413
00:21:24,149 --> 00:21:21,910
even have this office to do this in

414
00:21:26,950 --> 00:21:24,159
[Laughter]

415
00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:26,960
i'd have to buy like a

416
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pay-per-minute cell phone and hope it

417
00:21:33,830 --> 00:21:31,600
has a decent camera and then go find a

418
00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:33,840
wi-fi connection

419
00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:38,630
um

420
00:21:44,149 --> 00:21:41,440
i'm doing it to

421
00:21:48,310 --> 00:21:44,159
learn about this because i've had my own

422
00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:48,320
stuff happen to me that rocked my world

423
00:21:52,710 --> 00:21:50,880
and i know other people have two so if

424
00:21:54,070 --> 00:21:52,720
they appreciate the way i look into this

425
00:22:03,350 --> 00:21:54,080
stuff

426
00:22:07,510 --> 00:22:05,350
but it's also key that i get you know i

427
00:22:09,669 --> 00:22:07,520
can't just believe everything either

428
00:22:13,110 --> 00:22:09,679
just because i had my own

429
00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:13,120
encounter you know that was a conscious

430
00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:15,440
quantum consciousness driven basically

431
00:22:24,870 --> 00:22:20,630
so

432
00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:26,630
you know coming into this before i had

433
00:22:31,270 --> 00:22:29,760
the experience i was definitely a

434
00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:31,280
um

435
00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:33,120
naysayer type

436
00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:35,440
like oh that's funny yeah i'm sure

437
00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:37,200
so true

438
00:22:46,950 --> 00:22:43,110
you know so that's still a part of my

439
00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:46,960
dna although i've had a severe encounter

440
00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:47,760
that

441
00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:49,600
i can't deny

442
00:22:55,750 --> 00:22:51,200
you know so

443
00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:55,760
i'm constantly on this line of

444
00:23:01,190 --> 00:22:56,799
you know

445
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:06,390
and not discounting everything

446
00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:07,990
you know and it's uh incredibly

447
00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:09,600
difficult because i feel like for the

448
00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:14,549
you know it's not just black and white

449
00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:16,640
but there are the two sides the skeptics

450
00:23:19,590 --> 00:23:17,919
and

451
00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:19,600
the believers then you get the believers

452
00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:20,799
who are

453
00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:24,000
into you know you could even break those

454
00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:25,760
up into people who think it's foreign

455
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:27,840
tech people who think it's spaceships

456
00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:29,280
people who think it's our tech people

457
00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:34,470
and then you just go spaceships

458
00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:37,120
interdimensional

459
00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:39,520
you know and to me going that far just

460
00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:41,520
kind of seems

461
00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:43,120
it's fun to think about but it just

462
00:23:49,430 --> 00:23:46,799
seems silly because you know you can't

463
00:23:51,669 --> 00:23:49,440
you can't go from um

464
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:51,679
navy videos to

465
00:24:00,470 --> 00:23:54,240
knowing exactly what it is

466
00:24:04,230 --> 00:24:02,230
but we just have to keep taking those

467
00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:04,240
steps to get more and more information

468
00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:06,320
and be open and available to whatever

469
00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:07,919
that truth is

470
00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:12,789
probably multiple truths could almost

471
00:24:19,919 --> 00:24:22,630
so

472
00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:24,310
yeah i mean that's a good point robert

473
00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:31,029
the effect it had on us is the real key

474
00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:33,360
like i've said this to my wife and other

475
00:24:35,909 --> 00:24:34,320
people

476
00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:35,919
it's like there's

477
00:24:40,789 --> 00:24:38,240
no way in a million years before i had

478
00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:40,799
that sighting i would ever have guessed

479
00:24:44,789 --> 00:24:42,960
or even thought about i don't even

480
00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:44,799
i haven't even thought

481
00:24:48,870 --> 00:24:47,840
of the idea

482
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:48,880
of

483
00:24:56,070 --> 00:24:52,640
hosting a live podcast let alone

484
00:25:01,590 --> 00:24:58,710
i never even performed my music on a

485
00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:01,600
live stream

486
00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:04,080
and i was a musician for a long time and

487
00:25:07,909 --> 00:25:06,400
coronavirus came if i was gonna do it it

488
00:25:12,830 --> 00:25:07,919
would have been then but i didn't join

489
00:25:21,029 --> 00:25:16,070
crowd so it's like what does it all mean

490
00:25:24,870 --> 00:25:23,110
you know i'm saying all this stuff to

491
00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:24,880
you but what does that mean what's the

492
00:25:29,669 --> 00:25:27,679
point of it you know

493
00:25:35,110 --> 00:25:29,679
okay so i'm doing something i never

494
00:25:40,390 --> 00:25:38,149
so so what what does that mean

495
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:40,400
i don't know

496
00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:49,830
i just don't know

497
00:25:54,390 --> 00:25:52,880
so if you want to read these files on

498
00:25:55,909 --> 00:25:54,400
the lubock

499
00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:55,919
lights

500
00:26:01,590 --> 00:25:58,880
you can go to my website and read them

501
00:26:03,669 --> 00:26:01,600
and look at the black-and-white photos

502
00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:03,679
and do what you want with it um it's a

503
00:26:08,070 --> 00:26:06,000
pretty good one i like the cases that

504
00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:08,080
they obviously put a lot of extra effort

505
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:09,200
into

506
00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:11,760
and um this is one of them

507
00:26:16,149 --> 00:26:13,840
um and i think it's because there was

508
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:16,159
authentic photos

509
00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:16,960
so

510
00:26:20,950 --> 00:26:18,960
you know you want disclosure i would say

511
00:26:23,269 --> 00:26:20,960
that those photos may be

512
00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:23,279
you know there you go

513
00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:29,909
haven't debunked them even skeptics

514
00:26:35,269 --> 00:26:31,440
where they're looking at the lights

515
00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:38,630
and they try to recreate it by filming

516
00:26:45,669 --> 00:26:41,440
birds in a flying v and they couldn't do

517
00:26:53,830 --> 00:26:48,630
means something doesn't it

518
00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:55,830
experiment there

519
00:27:04,070 --> 00:27:01,830
it's like if mick west were actually to

520
00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:04,080
decide to try and recreate the things he

521
00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:06,080
debunks

522
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:13,909
at least being a passenger in a fighter

523
00:27:21,750 --> 00:27:19,350
getting a feel for it at the very least

524
00:27:31,029 --> 00:27:21,760
you know

525
00:27:35,510 --> 00:27:33,269
yeah so what's it gonna take because we

526
00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:35,520
have you know like how many times can i

527
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:37,840
go over these cases

528
00:27:41,909 --> 00:27:40,480
like it's disclosure every day on here

529
00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:41,919
you know

530
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:44,240
basically

531
00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:46,320
so what is it gonna take

532
00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:48,880
a photo

533
00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:49,840
no

534
00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:52,000
video

535
00:27:58,070 --> 00:27:54,880
unless it's like mind blowing

536
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:58,080
like a convertible saucer with an alien

537
00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:00,240
and long hair blowing in the wind i'm

538
00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:07,430
you know another thing lou touched on

539
00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:15,669
i forgot the word he used but

540
00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:18,240
complacency basically

541
00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:25,350
what is it you're looking for

542
00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:26,960
it's a good question

543
00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:29,039
everybody has to ask that of themselves

544
00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:32,000
what is it you're looking for here right

545
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:38,950
you know in the end sometimes i think

546
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:41,120
i'm not even looking for what it is as

547
00:28:49,750 --> 00:28:43,440
much as i'm looking to help people who

548
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,549
you know

549
00:29:02,149 --> 00:28:55,669
all i can do

550
00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:02,159
so yeah but i'm looking forward to harry

551
00:29:06,149 --> 00:29:04,320
reid that's gonna be awesome um i think

552
00:29:09,350 --> 00:29:06,159
he could give us some nice

553
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:09,360
maybe advice too right

554
00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:11,279
um

555
00:29:19,909 --> 00:29:14,320
he's been around the block

556
00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:22,310
what are his thoughts

557
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:24,320
what's his advice to keep pushing this

558
00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:26,159
forward

559
00:29:32,389 --> 00:29:28,240
i bet he would have some good stuff for

560
00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:34,630
yeah

561
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:36,159
you know i think that's a great point

562
00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:38,240
robert if we don't get stars in our eyes

563
00:29:43,269 --> 00:29:40,960
with this stuff we can do it

564
00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:43,279
i think that's true right because when

565
00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:45,200
you do get a little too

566
00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:46,240
uh

567
00:29:49,510 --> 00:29:48,240
you know everything's awesome and cool

568
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:49,520
you're you're not

569
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:51,600
um

570
00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:52,720
you're not

571
00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:54,080
you've already made up your mind

572
00:30:02,230 --> 00:29:57,120
basically you know

573
00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:03,669
you're just biased

574
00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:06,000
towards what you want to be true

575
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:09,200
which is a very hard thing to not do

576
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:13,430
but

577
00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:16,320
that's what happens

578
00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:21,029
oh yeah spaghetti you get a microphone

579
00:30:28,789 --> 00:30:27,510
so

580
00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:28,799
um

581
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:30,559
i'd like to move to

582
00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:32,799
maybe some uh

583
00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:36,240
phone calls how does that sound you guys

584
00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:43,590
um what's going on now it's pretty

585
00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:45,600
exciting with louis alzando all this

586
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,110
happening

587
00:31:00,909 --> 00:30:56,310
you know in san marino um great article

588
00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:03,029
thedebrief.com today

589
00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:08,470
so you should check that out they kind

590
00:31:13,909 --> 00:31:11,600
of played it as is you know san marina

591
00:31:16,470 --> 00:31:13,919
or you know the new you know

592
00:31:17,509 --> 00:31:16,480
geneva for uap or whatever and i think

593
00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:17,519
that's

594
00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:20,000
um if you talk to gary who i talked with

595
00:31:23,909 --> 00:31:22,799
on uh disclosure teams show yesterday

596
00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:23,919
it's kind of

597
00:31:27,590 --> 00:31:26,000
maybe putting the

598
00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:27,600
card in front of the horse a little bit

599
00:31:33,269 --> 00:31:32,470
just a little

600
00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:33,279
but

601
00:31:36,870 --> 00:31:35,200
it all looks very great

602
00:31:39,190 --> 00:31:36,880
but that's you know

603
00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:39,200
i i would say i don't have a

604
00:31:43,350 --> 00:31:40,880
good enough feel

605
00:31:45,830 --> 00:31:43,360
for the actual situation to say one way

606
00:31:49,509 --> 00:31:45,840
or another first of all i wasn't there i

607
00:31:51,430 --> 00:31:49,519
haven't talked to anybody that was there

608
00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:51,440
you know all i have to go off of is what

609
00:31:55,509 --> 00:31:53,600
people are saying about it and it it

610
00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:55,519
seems pretty exciting

611
00:31:58,870 --> 00:31:57,120
um

612
00:32:05,590 --> 00:31:58,880
yeah and how would the u.n do this right

613
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,310
yeah

614
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:09,750
you know he's not the only one to say

615
00:32:23,190 --> 00:32:21,669
uh the uk i think has more to do with uh

616
00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:23,200
mums the word

617
00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:25,120
than people think

618
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:28,559
i have a feeling

619
00:32:33,509 --> 00:32:31,200
you know it's interesting because uap

620
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:33,519
and the definition for it they took from

621
00:32:42,310 --> 00:32:39,509
borrowed it

622
00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:42,320
so why are we

623
00:32:46,470 --> 00:32:44,480
borrowing things of how to do this from

624
00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:46,480
the uk

625
00:32:49,350 --> 00:32:48,000
does that mean they have more experience

626
00:32:54,149 --> 00:32:49,360
perhaps

627
00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:55,830
yesterday we learned the invisible

628
00:33:00,950 --> 00:32:57,760
college actually started with the royal

629
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,710
in the uk

630
00:33:06,460 --> 00:33:05,909
who knows

631
00:33:08,470 --> 00:33:06,470
who

632
00:33:11,029 --> 00:33:08,480
[Music]

633
00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:11,039
knows

634
00:33:14,710 --> 00:33:13,200
but there are secret keepers and i hate

635
00:33:16,789 --> 00:33:14,720
them because

636
00:33:18,149 --> 00:33:16,799
all they could do is just share the data

637
00:33:21,430 --> 00:33:18,159
that they have

638
00:33:28,710 --> 00:33:24,870
you know we could skip so much

639
00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:30,549
you got avi going out there doing his

640
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:32,399
projects super excited for that lou is

641
00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:33,840
doing his stuff

642
00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:35,760
everybody's doing things well and here

643
00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:37,760
we go we got the secret keepers sitting

644
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:40,240
here with uh the data that could i don't

645
00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:41,760
know if they could put it into this or

646
00:33:45,029 --> 00:33:43,279
not but they could at least help shed

647
00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:45,039
some light on it and they're sitting

648
00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:46,320
there with their finger in their ass

649
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:54,950
now so when we talk about grow up

650
00:33:58,710 --> 00:33:57,120
you got to grow or you get left behind

651
00:34:02,070 --> 00:33:58,720
whoever's holding onto this data and

652
00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:02,080
won't let it go you need to grow up this

653
00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:04,000
world isn't yours

654
00:34:06,630 --> 00:34:05,519
you don't have the right to make

655
00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:06,640
decisions

656
00:34:12,069 --> 00:34:10,320
on behalf of the world population

657
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:12,079
and if you do think you have that

658
00:34:15,109 --> 00:34:13,520
privilege

659
00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:15,119
you should be

660
00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:20,950
because i don't care who you are you

661
00:34:32,069 --> 00:34:29,909
i don't care if you know you share this

662
00:34:33,829 --> 00:34:32,079
so maybe other people will find out what

663
00:34:37,430 --> 00:34:33,839
the tech is and

664
00:34:38,550 --> 00:34:37,440
maybe you won't make much money anymore

665
00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:38,560
well you know what you can't take it

666
00:34:42,149 --> 00:34:40,720
with you when you die what you will just

667
00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:42,159
like me

668
00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:44,079
that money won't go with you it'll stay

669
00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:52,950
and the tech will stay here

670
00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:54,960
well maybe there's other dimensions

671
00:35:05,109 --> 00:35:02,390
and you know what

672
00:35:06,790 --> 00:35:05,119
and how is not that not even like the

673
00:35:08,390 --> 00:35:06,800
most important thing that we're talking

674
00:35:10,870 --> 00:35:08,400
about right now is figuring out who

675
00:35:14,230 --> 00:35:10,880
these jerks are

676
00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:14,240
in getting stuff from them

677
00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:16,320
yeah we're we're still like looping

678
00:35:20,950 --> 00:35:18,480
around these people with different ideas

679
00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:20,960
and ways of doing things maybe this is

680
00:35:32,069 --> 00:35:22,880
the investigation of the ig we'll figure

681
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:36,710
but

682
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:41,829
it's jack crap you know

683
00:35:49,349 --> 00:35:43,670
it's like you got the cure but you want

684
00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:51,430
what an awful person in history will

685
00:36:02,710 --> 00:35:55,599
have those names in the books

686
00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:04,710
they won't be

687
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:06,640
as beautiful

688
00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:09,760
as a martin luther king jr or an abraham

689
00:36:14,069 --> 00:36:12,240
lincoln

690
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:14,079
or a jfk

691
00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:16,079
they will be the villain they'll be the

692
00:36:25,510 --> 00:36:23,670
you know

693
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:25,520
and maybe they get off on that sort of

694
00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:28,320
thing that's fine but i'll tell you what

695
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:42,390
so you can try as much as you want

696
00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:43,320
five steps away

697
00:36:48,390 --> 00:36:46,160
[Laughter]

698
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:48,400
nice spaghetti

699
00:37:02,150 --> 00:36:55,670
yeah of course i want to know a secret

700
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:04,069
gatekeepers are

701
00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:06,160
locked

702
00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:09,760
behind the gates of nda's huh

703
00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:10,880
oh yeah i was going to get the phone

704
00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:12,079
going

705
00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:13,680
i do have it

706
00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:15,839
up actually um

707
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:18,400
i always forget the number

708
00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:21,040
god damn it

709
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:28,550
yeah it's gotta be here somewhere

710
00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:36,550
secret keepers

711
00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:38,320
i wish i could just have one call with

712
00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:39,599
them one

713
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:46,230
not that i would change anyone's minds

714
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:47,040
but

715
00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:48,800
obviously

716
00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:50,320
it's not gonna be like oh sean came

717
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,950
yellow

718
00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:00,310
hello

719
00:38:06,310 --> 00:38:04,800
hey i'm sorry man

720
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:06,320
hold on give me a second

721
00:38:15,270 --> 00:38:13,190
yeah i bought a new mic i don't know the

722
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:15,280
i i was surprised at how inexpensive

723
00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:17,280
they were and i did the tracking it's

724
00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:19,200
less than a half a mile away but it's

725
00:38:22,150 --> 00:38:21,119
still five stops you know new york goes

726
00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:22,160
up and down

727
00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:24,000
oh no um

728
00:38:31,589 --> 00:38:29,910
all right

729
00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:31,599
well i could probably see him from my

730
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:32,640
window

731
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:34,640
but i wanted to chase him down no i

732
00:38:38,470 --> 00:38:36,240
listened to the audio the audio was a

733
00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:38,480
little shitty on that i got to be honest

734
00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:40,400
you sounded good like we sounded good

735
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:42,400
talking but the re i re-listened it

736
00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:44,400
didn't sound all that great oh well yeah

737
00:38:49,270 --> 00:38:47,520
i told you then it's just a computer mic

738
00:38:51,270 --> 00:38:49,280
you can only do so much

739
00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:51,280
i was surprised at how inexpensive some

740
00:38:54,390 --> 00:38:52,880
of this stuff was i'm looking at him

741
00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:54,400
like he could buy a whole podcast

742
00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:56,160
starter kit for like two hundred dollars

743
00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:58,400
like whoa hold the boat

744
00:39:02,790 --> 00:38:59,440
well

745
00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:02,800
be careful you do get what you pay for

746
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:04,480
yeah so i kind of went middle in the

747
00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:06,320
road i like middle of the road i didn't

748
00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:08,560
buy so i don't want to boom in my face

749
00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:10,800
yeah i don't want that you know

750
00:39:14,950 --> 00:39:12,480
um i see but i bought a decent one i

751
00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:14,960
think i think we'll see we'll see could

752
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:16,400
always upgrade it they're not that

753
00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:18,640
expensive i could always upgrade so let

754
00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:20,160
me ask you what do you remember about

755
00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:22,480
the lubbock lights

756
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:24,160
not that you're there mispronouncing

757
00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:26,400
lubock it's lubbock

758
00:39:40,390 --> 00:39:38,790
yeah that's what i remember well what do

759
00:39:42,069 --> 00:39:40,400
i remember off the top of my head about

760
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:42,079
lubbock lights nothing they're like

761
00:39:47,190 --> 00:39:43,920
boomerang shaped

762
00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:47,200
um or v-shaped and they're in all the

763
00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:48,720
old books

764
00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:51,599
there was uh college professors or

765
00:39:55,109 --> 00:39:53,760
something saw it that that was like that

766
00:39:57,510 --> 00:39:55,119
big claim to fame that they couldn't

767
00:40:00,310 --> 00:39:57,520
just whitewash that over like there were

768
00:40:01,910 --> 00:40:00,320
credible witnesses to that one yeah um

769
00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:01,920
not much it's like a footnote it's not

770
00:40:04,309 --> 00:40:03,359
like there were books written on it or

771
00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:04,319
anything

772
00:40:07,829 --> 00:40:06,240
um

773
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:07,839
but it was like you know what's

774
00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:09,760
interesting about lubbock lights is you

775
00:40:14,309 --> 00:40:11,680
could like toss them into that giant

776
00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:14,319
wave of the early 50s you know yeah it's

777
00:40:19,109 --> 00:40:16,800
like got to be close in time to the dc

778
00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:19,119
sightings right it is it's a year before

779
00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:21,520
less than a year before

780
00:40:26,150 --> 00:40:24,160
yeah there was like a big wave back then

781
00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:26,160
you know like a lot of people are seeing

782
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:27,440
stuff

783
00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:30,960
say maybe that didn't stop just the

784
00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:33,440
media stop reporting it possibly

785
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:35,040
yeah i don't think so if you really

786
00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:36,720
really look at it right you had to

787
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:39,920
grudge and sign and blue book and then

788
00:40:44,069 --> 00:40:43,119
after that it really went quiet right

789
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:44,079
right

790
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:45,920
there was in the beginning i say after

791
00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:48,240
saying 47 you got roswell and then it

792
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:50,160
came out and they would talk about it

793
00:40:55,510 --> 00:40:53,040
all the way up to the 50s um they would

794
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:55,520
act the media would talk about it like

795
00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:57,680
there was an active dialogue in the

796
00:41:02,870 --> 00:41:00,240
media about ufos the military was doing

797
00:41:05,190 --> 00:41:02,880
press conferences about ufos you know

798
00:41:08,069 --> 00:41:05,200
proclaiming that they're not a threat

799
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:08,079
and you know it but then it went silent

800
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:11,040
just literally media silent and that's

801
00:41:15,829 --> 00:41:13,040
where i think mockingbird

802
00:41:17,190 --> 00:41:15,839
um project mockingbird came into play

803
00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:17,200
that's where they like

804
00:41:22,470 --> 00:41:20,160
infiltrated the media and said shush

805
00:41:23,589 --> 00:41:22,480
quiet about this stuff don't talk about

806
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:23,599
this stuff

807
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:25,200
and then they started to make a mockery

808
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:26,160
of it

809
00:41:30,550 --> 00:41:28,800
and it really went dead really until

810
00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:30,560
freeman kind of started digging around

811
00:41:35,990 --> 00:41:32,560
roswell and then it started to come back

812
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:36,000
creep back in really you know

813
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:38,240
interesting yeah so was it like a

814
00:41:42,390 --> 00:41:40,160
sighting that got everybody back or

815
00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:42,400
anything it was kind of a rehash of an

816
00:41:47,589 --> 00:41:44,800
old one

817
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:47,599
it's it's that it never went away

818
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:50,400
and curious people started poking around

819
00:41:53,990 --> 00:41:52,400
right you know stan freeman really

820
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:54,000
didn't let it go

821
00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:55,680
and uh he

822
00:41:58,710 --> 00:41:57,280
literally the evidence just started to

823
00:42:01,270 --> 00:41:58,720
build where people got more and more

824
00:42:03,750 --> 00:42:01,280
curious look when you come out in 1947

825
00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:03,760
and say the army has retrieved a flying

826
00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:04,880
saucer

827
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:07,040
and then debunk it the next day people

828
00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:08,880
are not going to forget that you know

829
00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:10,079
what i mean there's always going to be

830
00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:12,400
the plus with the extra sightings that

831
00:42:16,630 --> 00:42:13,760
were happening

832
00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:16,640
um the big wave in 1952 the crash in

833
00:42:20,150 --> 00:42:18,400
kecksburg the betty and barney hill

834
00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:20,160
thing in early 60s

835
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:23,520
it it continued on yeah so that you

836
00:42:27,270 --> 00:42:25,200
can't really sweep it under the rock

837
00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:27,280
totally yeah but that's really like

838
00:42:31,829 --> 00:42:29,680
today they can never do that everybody's

839
00:42:33,589 --> 00:42:31,839
got phones everybody's got video cameras

840
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:33,599
there's no way they could cover this up

841
00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:34,480
now

842
00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:36,000
let me ask you this

843
00:42:38,309 --> 00:42:36,800
um

844
00:42:39,829 --> 00:42:38,319
you know you've obviously done quite a

845
00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:39,839
bit of research on this stuff because

846
00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:43,040
you you know a good amount

847
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:44,720
if you had to take a guess

848
00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:46,240
or maybe even know

849
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:49,599
um who do you think is responsible for

850
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:50,880
um

851
00:42:57,750 --> 00:42:54,319
you know keeping everything wrapped up

852
00:42:59,670 --> 00:42:57,760
keeping everything quiet yeah

853
00:43:01,270 --> 00:42:59,680
i think there's a combination of factors

854
00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:01,280
i think early on they were able to use

855
00:43:06,069 --> 00:43:03,359
it for military strategy

856
00:43:07,030 --> 00:43:06,079
okay because you have the government

857
00:43:09,349 --> 00:43:07,040
making

858
00:43:11,109 --> 00:43:09,359
or building manufacturing secret

859
00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:11,119
aircraft basically to fly over the

860
00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:13,920
soviet union and take pictures right

861
00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:17,440
and they used the ufo phenomenon

862
00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:19,920
to keep people like iffy about it no you

863
00:43:24,230 --> 00:43:21,920
didn't see an aircraft though you didn't

864
00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:24,240
see a ufo they just denied everything

865
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:26,560
because they had secret aircraft in the

866
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:28,640
air so let's just hush hush hush you

867
00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:29,920
didn't see anything

868
00:43:33,349 --> 00:43:32,319
right sr-71 no there's nothing to see

869
00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:33,359
here

870
00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:35,760
so i think the military and i think you

871
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:39,280
also had a very compliant population

872
00:43:44,150 --> 00:43:41,440
american public was compliant they were

873
00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:44,160
really high on themselves after the war

874
00:43:47,349 --> 00:43:45,440
right

875
00:43:48,950 --> 00:43:47,359
you came back we were the only country

876
00:43:51,990 --> 00:43:48,960
in the world that really wasn't

877
00:43:54,230 --> 00:43:52,000
destroyed all of europe was destroyed

878
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:54,240
america had all its natural resources

879
00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:56,800
all its manufacturing we fed the world

880
00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:58,720
we built everything for the world he had

881
00:44:03,510 --> 00:44:00,880
a very compliant

882
00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:03,520
prosperous population that just got in

883
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:04,960
line and did the right thing and they

884
00:44:09,270 --> 00:44:06,720
trusted their government and the

885
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:09,280
government wanted it quiet and the media

886
00:44:12,870 --> 00:44:10,960
was compliant too

887
00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:12,880
you know after vietnam things started

888
00:44:16,470 --> 00:44:14,400
changing that's when people started to

889
00:44:18,069 --> 00:44:16,480
distrust the government you know

890
00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:18,079
interesting they're taking young people

891
00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:20,160
who aren't even volunteering to go to

892
00:44:25,109 --> 00:44:23,280
war and die and kill for why that's

893
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:25,119
terrible you know what i mean so once

894
00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:27,119
the hippies got a hold of it you know

895
00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:28,640
they're all flower children but they

896
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:31,280
also said no way man i'm not going and

897
00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:32,880
people started to change their attitude

898
00:44:37,109 --> 00:44:34,640
that the government might not be as nice

899
00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:37,119
or as trustworthy as you know we like to

900
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:39,200
think yeah and they started to question

901
00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:41,680
it and then it started to come out

902
00:44:47,589 --> 00:44:44,240
i think freeman deserves a lot of credit

903
00:44:49,589 --> 00:44:47,599
yeah and roswell i know that a lot of

904
00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:49,599
you know roswell a lot of people just

905
00:44:53,589 --> 00:44:52,079
kind of tired of talking about it but if

906
00:44:55,270 --> 00:44:53,599
not for that

907
00:44:57,510 --> 00:44:55,280
um

908
00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:57,520
you know he he's really responsible for

909
00:45:02,550 --> 00:44:59,920
keeping it alive for real really

910
00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:02,560
getting jesse marcel to talk i mean just

911
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:03,760
marcel made

912
00:45:09,990 --> 00:45:05,920
a confession near the end of his life

913
00:45:13,270 --> 00:45:12,309
so the guy the god but the guy in the

914
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:13,280
picture

915
00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:16,720
with that tin foil at roswell confessed

916
00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:18,720
it was not from this earth

917
00:45:23,829 --> 00:45:20,880
i mean how much more do you need the

918
00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:23,839
confirmation just confessed it not even

919
00:45:28,870 --> 00:45:27,839
jesse marcel jr jesse marcel senior

920
00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:28,880
said that

921
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:30,560
you know how much more do you really

922
00:45:34,390 --> 00:45:32,400
need and you want to talk about a

923
00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:34,400
population that believes it's it's

924
00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:36,400
government and its media

925
00:45:40,870 --> 00:45:38,240
i mean jesse marcel admitted that yet

926
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:40,880
you still have people even today saying

927
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:42,720
i don't know if i believe it and he was

928
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:44,319
saying

929
00:45:48,230 --> 00:45:46,720
highly credited intelligence officer he

930
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:48,240
was pretty up the chain

931
00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:50,480
eventually he was he was in charge of

932
00:45:54,550 --> 00:45:52,079
the five and ninth bomber group in

933
00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:54,560
roswell i mean that was our the home of

934
00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:56,800
our nuclear bombers

935
00:46:00,230 --> 00:45:58,400
i mean yeah it was i think the

936
00:46:02,790 --> 00:46:00,240
information officer or something i don't

937
00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:02,800
know his exact rank he wasn't

938
00:46:08,710 --> 00:46:05,040
uh nathan twining was

939
00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:08,720
on top of him he was a general but

940
00:46:16,150 --> 00:46:09,760
twining

941
00:46:20,630 --> 00:46:18,069
hey spaghetti yeah

942
00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:20,640
i'm from wisconsin i don't freaking know

943
00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:22,560
no it's like it's all good hey so is

944
00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:24,720
chris farley man it's all good it's all

945
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:25,680
good

946
00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:26,880
um

947
00:46:30,309 --> 00:46:28,720
you know what can i ask you a question

948
00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:30,319
yeah really

949
00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:33,839
24 on my uh my battery almost dead

950
00:46:37,829 --> 00:46:35,440
um

951
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:37,839
i'm concerned about you man

952
00:46:41,589 --> 00:46:40,560
a little bit uh-oh

953
00:46:44,710 --> 00:46:41,599
no

954
00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:44,720
you i i'm watching carefully okay it

955
00:46:50,069 --> 00:46:47,200
seems like you have really been

956
00:46:51,270 --> 00:46:50,079
affected by your experiences okay

957
00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:51,280
i'm not going to turn this into a

958
00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:53,280
therapy session or anything like that

959
00:46:58,950 --> 00:46:56,640
thank you but um you haven't like i

960
00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:58,960
don't know exactly what your experiences

961
00:47:01,430 --> 00:47:00,480
are

962
00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:01,440
but

963
00:47:07,589 --> 00:47:05,760
i could see you're clearly affected and

964
00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:07,599
perhaps coming out here every day and

965
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:09,440
doing this with us even though maybe a

966
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:11,760
small crowd that gathers here every day

967
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:14,400
it may be good for you just keep talking

968
00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:15,760
yeah

969
00:47:19,589 --> 00:47:18,400
just just an observation bro no i

970
00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:19,599
appreciate it

971
00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:21,359
yeah there's good days and bad days i

972
00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:22,800
guess you know

973
00:47:27,910 --> 00:47:25,040
look if if if something happens in your

974
00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:27,920
life regardless and say it's traumatic

975
00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:30,960
right and it's a life-changing event

976
00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:33,440
i've seen some crazy stuff myself

977
00:47:37,589 --> 00:47:34,400
so

978
00:47:40,150 --> 00:47:37,599
really quick

979
00:47:42,549 --> 00:47:40,160
and uh just hang in there man just keep

980
00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:42,559
uh keep keep doing this you'll get your

981
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:45,920
answers yeah you know yeah things exist

982
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:48,640
they exist bro the stuff is real

983
00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:51,200
you you equated it to if i recall a

984
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:53,920
quantum consciousness thing

985
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:55,440
let me let me ask you something further

986
00:47:59,190 --> 00:47:57,839
about that do you believe

987
00:48:02,069 --> 00:47:59,200
that

988
00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:02,079
your your thoughts somehow summoned them

989
00:48:06,150 --> 00:48:03,040
or

990
00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:06,160
that they showed themselves to you like

991
00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:07,839
direct like they didn't fly over your

992
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:09,440
neighborhood in wisconsin to show the

993
00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:11,040
whole neighborhood like they showed up

994
00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:12,960
for you

995
00:48:16,790 --> 00:48:14,480
do you got that vibe

996
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:16,800
definitely

997
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:18,000
yeah

998
00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:21,200
did you have an induction experience uh

999
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:24,160
not that i know of um

1000
00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:24,960
so

1001
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:27,200
for for that experience i'll just i'll

1002
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:30,960
just do a rundown for you um

1003
00:48:37,990 --> 00:48:36,559
so it was about august of 2020

1004
00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:38,000
i want to say

1005
00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:40,800
um so last year yeah

1006
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:41,920
um

1007
00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:43,680
you know coronavirus was going pretty

1008
00:48:48,309 --> 00:48:46,160
strong and it was the bowling season was

1009
00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:48,319
gonna start i always pulled with my dad

1010
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:49,200
um

1011
00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:52,079
but the coronavirus was pretty hardcore

1012
00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:56,079
but bowling league was still going on

1013
00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:57,760
i told him i would do it with them if

1014
00:49:03,910 --> 00:48:59,680
people were wearing masks people were

1015
00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:03,920
not wearing masks obviously and

1016
00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:06,160
we got no wound up getting in a pretty

1017
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:08,720
big fight on the phone the next day with

1018
00:49:12,069 --> 00:49:10,240
like worse than i could ever imagine

1019
00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:12,079
worse than i ever fought with him we

1020
00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:14,160
barely even fought ever at all

1021
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:16,559
so this was really peculiar

1022
00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:18,240
so the reason i'm mentioning this is

1023
00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:21,440
because two years before i had a dream

1024
00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:24,480
where we argued just like that and i had

1025
00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:27,040
the same thoughts of thinking this is

1026
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:29,119
weird why are we arguing i've never done

1027
00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:30,480
this with him before

1028
00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:32,480
and it stayed with me all day

1029
00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:34,400
two years later that happened

1030
00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:35,119
so

1031
00:49:40,549 --> 00:49:38,319
a couple days before that

1032
00:49:43,270 --> 00:49:40,559
i'm outside smoking a cigarette

1033
00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:43,280
i'm about to walk into my house

1034
00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:44,880
and

1035
00:49:48,069 --> 00:49:46,079
just above

1036
00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:48,079
me probably looked like it was 50 feet

1037
00:49:50,390 --> 00:49:49,440
above me

1038
00:49:54,790 --> 00:49:50,400
you know

1039
00:49:57,430 --> 00:49:54,800
was a sideways teardrop that seemingly

1040
00:49:59,589 --> 00:49:57,440
like entered and left

1041
00:50:00,390 --> 00:49:59,599
the dimension almost you know

1042
00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:00,400
and

1043
00:50:07,109 --> 00:50:03,040
i was looking at it

1044
00:50:08,549 --> 00:50:07,119
so hard and i could see

1045
00:50:10,829 --> 00:50:08,559
the cloud

1046
00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:10,839
not like a very thick

1047
00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:12,960
dense cloud

1048
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:16,160
kind of texture and around it was like

1049
00:50:21,190 --> 00:50:19,200
almost like an electric thing that was

1050
00:50:23,589 --> 00:50:21,200
constantly in motion

1051
00:50:25,030 --> 00:50:23,599
like the border of it yeah

1052
00:50:27,750 --> 00:50:25,040
and then so

1053
00:50:29,589 --> 00:50:27,760
that happened so that happens

1054
00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:29,599
the dream comes true

1055
00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:32,880
this is all within like a week's time

1056
00:50:37,589 --> 00:50:35,280
after the dream comes true

1057
00:50:38,630 --> 00:50:37,599
i'm outside

1058
00:50:41,109 --> 00:50:38,640
um

1059
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:41,119
same thing smoking a cigarette

1060
00:50:44,950 --> 00:50:43,440
uh about to go

1061
00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:44,960
no this time i'm not about to go in the

1062
00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:47,760
house i'm looking at her garage which is

1063
00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:50,400
so the first sighting i was looking

1064
00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:54,240
uh east and this one i'm looking south

1065
00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:00,549
and all of a sudden i feel a like zip

1066
00:51:07,109 --> 00:51:04,480
of light coming across my soldier

1067
00:51:12,549 --> 00:51:10,390
felt and saw like peripheral saw

1068
00:51:15,270 --> 00:51:12,559
so i shouldn't say like feel like i hurt

1069
00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:15,280
or i felt i guess i should say my

1070
00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:18,240
peripheral i saw it coming across my

1071
00:51:21,670 --> 00:51:19,200
shoulder

1072
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:21,680
and i just knew that i was going to see

1073
00:51:26,069 --> 00:51:23,920
one of these things again and then i had

1074
00:51:28,390 --> 00:51:26,079
to just keep my eyes fixed on the

1075
00:51:30,309 --> 00:51:28,400
direction of where this light went over

1076
00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:30,319
my shoulder

1077
00:51:33,910 --> 00:51:31,599
and it landed right where you were

1078
00:51:36,549 --> 00:51:33,920
looking that's where it went right right

1079
00:51:39,190 --> 00:51:36,559
there over stopped but this time it was

1080
00:51:41,910 --> 00:51:39,200
like a complete sphere but the same

1081
00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:41,920
texture and the same outer ring border

1082
00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:42,720
thing

1083
00:51:45,430 --> 00:51:44,480
right

1084
00:51:47,349 --> 00:51:45,440
and

1085
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:47,359
so then it was coming you'd say it was

1086
00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:49,119
the same it was basically the same thing

1087
00:51:58,870 --> 00:51:55,829
and you said it was 50 feet away so you

1088
00:52:00,630 --> 00:51:58,880
had uh certain it was within view you

1089
00:52:02,069 --> 00:52:00,640
you could measure it in scale like you

1090
00:52:03,910 --> 00:52:02,079
could see it was in the garage you were

1091
00:52:05,589 --> 00:52:03,920
looking for the garage you could

1092
00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:05,599
tell it was this big in comparison

1093
00:52:10,150 --> 00:52:08,400
relative to the garage yeah

1094
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:10,160
wow and that

1095
00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:12,160
is that your only two

1096
00:52:17,589 --> 00:52:15,440
uh one one more time my only two no

1097
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:17,599
that was the only two experiences no

1098
00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:20,319
those were the first two that

1099
00:52:23,990 --> 00:52:21,359
rocked me

1100
00:52:25,190 --> 00:52:24,000
the um other experiences were just

1101
00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:25,200
visuals

1102
00:52:30,069 --> 00:52:27,520
like one was with my wife

1103
00:52:32,150 --> 00:52:30,079
um and those were actually really close

1104
00:52:34,470 --> 00:52:32,160
too yeah she saw it first and she's not

1105
00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:34,480
even into this stuff she saw it on her

1106
00:52:38,390 --> 00:52:36,240
way driving home told me to go outside

1107
00:52:39,510 --> 00:52:38,400
to the backyard because weird things

1108
00:52:41,589 --> 00:52:39,520
were in the sky

1109
00:52:42,630 --> 00:52:41,599
i get back there and the things are

1110
00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:42,640
literally

1111
00:52:47,349 --> 00:52:45,200
floating over our house

1112
00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:47,359
and over our backyards plural there's

1113
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:48,800
more than one yeah there was like four

1114
00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:50,160
of them

1115
00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:52,160
and it was the same form teardrop

1116
00:52:59,430 --> 00:52:55,040
sideways no drop circular no these were

1117
00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:01,990
wow dude yeah

1118
00:53:05,829 --> 00:53:04,160
that turned white and

1119
00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:05,839
uh when they accelerated they turned

1120
00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:08,000
white and went up into the sky into the

1121
00:53:12,549 --> 00:53:10,240
clouds and left they went over our house

1122
00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:12,559
they were a little bit over the tree of

1123
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:16,000
our house which is maybe 100 feet up

1124
00:53:20,230 --> 00:53:18,160
okay and so again you've got a size

1125
00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:20,240
comparison you got a size comparison

1126
00:53:26,710 --> 00:53:23,760
like the width of the tree yeah okay um

1127
00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:26,720
i have a video of that actually

1128
00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:28,319
oh that's awesome hey let me get let me

1129
00:53:31,910 --> 00:53:30,160
ask you this question when when you were

1130
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:31,920
having these experiences did you get

1131
00:53:36,150 --> 00:53:34,240
this the feeling or the sensation like

1132
00:53:39,109 --> 00:53:36,160
there was a conscious connection between

1133
00:53:41,589 --> 00:53:39,119
you and the objects like did you

1134
00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:41,599
did you sense that they knew you were

1135
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:42,720
looking

1136
00:53:50,069 --> 00:53:46,640
um the first one was

1137
00:53:53,910 --> 00:53:50,079
something divine something

1138
00:53:55,990 --> 00:53:53,920
divine interesting word um

1139
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:56,000
something

1140
00:54:00,549 --> 00:53:59,119
that was just trying to make it all

1141
00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:00,559
cohesive

1142
00:54:08,069 --> 00:54:05,750
um all cohes in other words look at me

1143
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:08,079
i'm here for you kind of a vibe like

1144
00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:10,800
every question is everything's just like

1145
00:54:14,470 --> 00:54:13,200
one and playing in and out of time loops

1146
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:14,480
kind of stuff

1147
00:54:17,829 --> 00:54:16,079
you know

1148
00:54:19,510 --> 00:54:17,839
wow that's uh

1149
00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:19,520
that's very metaphysical right there

1150
00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:22,480
that's kind of wow the original words

1151
00:54:27,349 --> 00:54:24,800
the orbs seem grumpy

1152
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:27,359
i remember that specifically the second

1153
00:54:31,990 --> 00:54:30,319
one came around and i said hey buddy

1154
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:32,000
come on over

1155
00:54:36,829 --> 00:54:34,480
am i watching it it might respond my

1156
00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:36,839
wife goes no don't do

1157
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:40,000
it just kept going but right away i got

1158
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:44,240
hit with this grumpy feeling i'm grumpy

1159
00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:45,359
you know

1160
00:54:50,390 --> 00:54:47,760
um so i should say before the red orbs

1161
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:50,400
one like a week before i was outside by

1162
00:54:54,630 --> 00:54:53,040
myself looking towards the school

1163
00:54:55,589 --> 00:54:54,640
which would be

1164
00:54:57,430 --> 00:54:55,599
uh

1165
00:54:59,510 --> 00:54:57,440
south northwest

1166
00:55:01,430 --> 00:54:59,520
and

1167
00:55:03,670 --> 00:55:01,440
all of a sudden shooting out of the sky

1168
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:03,680
like a bullet it looked like an

1169
00:55:08,470 --> 00:55:06,400
anthracite bullet right

1170
00:55:10,710 --> 00:55:08,480
and there was a little orange-ness

1171
00:55:13,030 --> 00:55:10,720
around it and as it was going down which

1172
00:55:14,870 --> 00:55:13,040
was super fast like out of a gun the

1173
00:55:17,349 --> 00:55:14,880
orange thing was getting bigger and

1174
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:17,359
bigger and bigger and then it just went

1175
00:55:20,710 --> 00:55:18,720
away

1176
00:55:22,470 --> 00:55:20,720
but

1177
00:55:24,150 --> 00:55:22,480
like you could you could see through it

1178
00:55:28,069 --> 00:55:24,160
like anthracite it was like very

1179
00:55:30,870 --> 00:55:28,079
translucent just like a dark metal gray

1180
00:55:32,630 --> 00:55:30,880
yeah it is what it was yeah so it looked

1181
00:55:34,470 --> 00:55:32,640
to be like it was in this forest or

1182
00:55:36,309 --> 00:55:34,480
something i knew it was over there and

1183
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:36,319
i'm thinking like a flare or something

1184
00:55:40,630 --> 00:55:38,960
but then i'm thinking that flares aren't

1185
00:55:42,789 --> 00:55:40,640
you don't shoot them like a bullet at

1186
00:55:44,230 --> 00:55:42,799
the ground you know

1187
00:55:46,630 --> 00:55:44,240
right and they don't go that fast at the

1188
00:55:48,789 --> 00:55:46,640
ground so the weird thing about that is

1189
00:55:50,549 --> 00:55:48,799
spaghetti is the video i have of the

1190
00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:50,559
four orbs

1191
00:55:59,109 --> 00:55:56,309
but they didn't shoot they flew around

1192
00:56:01,589 --> 00:55:59,119
before yeah but the the orange

1193
00:56:07,270 --> 00:56:04,870
it i just knew it was the same

1194
00:56:09,990 --> 00:56:07,280
same thing same thing as you saw before

1195
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:10,000
but still not the first one

1196
00:56:14,230 --> 00:56:12,160
disease experience they lasted obviously

1197
00:56:16,390 --> 00:56:14,240
long enough for you to have emotions

1198
00:56:19,030 --> 00:56:16,400
right they weren't like the blink of an

1199
00:56:21,829 --> 00:56:19,040
eye it took like what you can count 1001

1200
00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:21,839
1002 1003 they were there

1201
00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:23,920
and long enough for you to feel emotion

1202
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:26,160
like you said one one caused you to feel

1203
00:56:36,309 --> 00:56:27,440
grumpy

1204
00:56:38,230 --> 00:56:36,319
like what are we doing here

1205
00:56:39,349 --> 00:56:38,240
your wife's like get out of here chased

1206
00:56:41,109 --> 00:56:39,359
it away

1207
00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:41,119
that's why you got to be welcoming man

1208
00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:42,960
bring out bring out a bowl of spaghetti

1209
00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:44,960
yeah

1210
00:56:55,750 --> 00:56:46,079
the

1211
00:56:57,589 --> 00:56:55,760
emotional part was all really

1212
00:56:58,710 --> 00:56:57,599
you know from my knowledge the first

1213
00:57:01,750 --> 00:56:58,720
part

1214
00:57:03,109 --> 00:57:01,760
in the dream coming true mostly around

1215
00:57:05,829 --> 00:57:03,119
it

1216
00:57:08,870 --> 00:57:05,839
that's what that's what really

1217
00:57:11,589 --> 00:57:08,880
put this whole thing in a box for me and

1218
00:57:13,829 --> 00:57:11,599
rocked me you know

1219
00:57:15,670 --> 00:57:13,839
because how do i see these things that

1220
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:15,680
are absolutely insane for the first time

1221
00:57:19,910 --> 00:57:16,960
in my life

1222
00:57:21,910 --> 00:57:19,920
when that happens a dream literally

1223
00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:21,920
comes true and when i was doing an

1224
00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:23,200
argument

1225
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:24,160
i could

1226
00:57:28,710 --> 00:57:26,400
i didn't have control of what i was

1227
00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:28,720
saying or doing i was watching it like a

1228
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:31,359
movie play out and i was watching it and

1229
00:57:35,270 --> 00:57:33,839
saying this is my dream in my head

1230
00:57:36,950 --> 00:57:35,280
watch this

1231
00:57:42,150 --> 00:57:36,960
you know

1232
00:57:45,270 --> 00:57:43,589
so

1233
00:57:48,710 --> 00:57:45,280
you know yeah that makes me emotional

1234
00:57:50,309 --> 00:57:48,720
but it's not you know it's just a life

1235
00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:50,319
a hard life that

1236
00:57:54,789 --> 00:57:52,720
gives me bad days sometimes

1237
00:57:56,630 --> 00:57:54,799
no i get that yeah i believe me hey i

1238
00:57:58,950 --> 00:57:56,640
got my skill i got more skeletons in my

1239
00:57:59,750 --> 00:57:58,960
closet than a woman catacomb dude i got

1240
00:58:00,789 --> 00:57:59,760
you

1241
00:58:02,549 --> 00:58:00,799
um

1242
00:58:03,990 --> 00:58:02,559
but but that's why i love you guys are

1243
00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:04,000
you calling in because that totally

1244
00:58:08,150 --> 00:58:06,640
changes my attitude you know well you

1245
00:58:10,549 --> 00:58:08,160
know what a dude and i don't know again

1246
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:10,559
i i like these experiences and i'm more

1247
00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:12,960
of a nuts and bolts guy and i'm sort of

1248
00:58:17,030 --> 00:58:14,640
veering down the more of the quantum

1249
00:58:17,990 --> 00:58:17,040
thing and you said something

1250
00:58:19,910 --> 00:58:18,000
just

1251
00:58:21,829 --> 00:58:19,920
having these conversations about what

1252
00:58:24,789 --> 00:58:21,839
how you're you're explaining your

1253
00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:24,799
experiences is opening doors for me to

1254
00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:27,119
explore the consciousness connection to

1255
00:58:32,390 --> 00:58:30,240
it okay it really is and that's cool i'm

1256
00:58:34,390 --> 00:58:32,400
learning as book smart as i may be with

1257
00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:34,400
three decades of research

1258
00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:36,480
i never really looked into the quan the

1259
00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:39,119
quantum level the consciousness so i'm

1260
00:58:42,150 --> 00:58:40,960
learning but let me let me ask you this

1261
00:58:43,829 --> 00:58:42,160
question

1262
00:58:45,910 --> 00:58:43,839
let me ask you this now

1263
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:45,920
did you feel a connection with them as

1264
00:58:56,789 --> 00:58:54,789
the the first one i have an odd feeling

1265
00:58:59,829 --> 00:58:56,799
that i've had a relationship for it with

1266
00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:02,870
um a relationship yeah like that's an

1267
00:59:07,829 --> 00:59:05,760
interesting word um like maybe

1268
00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:07,839
like um

1269
00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:09,040
like

1270
00:59:17,990 --> 00:59:15,359
been watching over you

1271
00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:18,000
so use relationship use the word divine

1272
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:21,200
use the word guiding angel um

1273
00:59:27,670 --> 00:59:23,280
are you afraid of these things

1274
00:59:32,549 --> 00:59:29,910
okay not at all you would you have

1275
00:59:36,470 --> 00:59:32,559
absolutely no no conscious recall of

1276
00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:38,870
this is kind of what i think about it if

1277
00:59:42,150 --> 00:59:40,559
you don't want to i can't first of all i

1278
00:59:43,750 --> 00:59:42,160
don't want to talk about a computer i

1279
00:59:45,349 --> 00:59:43,760
can't i can't see your face so i don't

1280
00:59:46,870 --> 00:59:45,359
know how you react it's just two dudes

1281
00:59:48,630 --> 00:59:46,880
having a conversation yeah no they don't

1282
00:59:50,150 --> 00:59:48,640
want to talk about it

1283
00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:50,160
um so

1284
00:59:54,230 --> 00:59:52,079
this is kind of my what i would have to

1285
00:59:55,750 --> 00:59:54,240
say to that because um

1286
00:59:57,910 --> 00:59:55,760
i've never had

1287
00:59:59,670 --> 00:59:57,920
an abduction like

1288
01:00:01,670 --> 00:59:59,680
people describe them

1289
01:00:04,069 --> 01:00:01,680
ever right you know

1290
01:00:06,630 --> 01:00:04,079
uh but i do remember and i know how you

1291
01:00:08,470 --> 01:00:06,640
feel about dreams

1292
01:00:10,069 --> 01:00:08,480
but this uh

1293
01:00:11,670 --> 01:00:10,079
dream is

1294
01:00:13,589 --> 01:00:11,680
the only thing that maybe could have

1295
01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:13,599
been something like that

1296
01:00:17,109 --> 01:00:15,119
um

1297
01:00:19,670 --> 01:00:17,119
i'm dreaming and it's a powerful dream

1298
01:00:20,870 --> 01:00:19,680
either way so even if it isn't that it

1299
01:00:24,710 --> 01:00:20,880
was powerful

1300
01:00:25,670 --> 01:00:24,720
um it's vivid yeah i'm outside on a like

1301
01:00:27,270 --> 01:00:25,680
um

1302
01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:27,280
oh and i'll tell you the kicker too at

1303
01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:29,680
the end it's pretty great so i'm outside

1304
01:00:33,910 --> 01:00:31,440
on the playground basketball court

1305
01:00:36,950 --> 01:00:33,920
concrete basketball court

1306
01:00:38,950 --> 01:00:36,960
um and i turned to go into the school in

1307
01:00:40,309 --> 01:00:38,960
these big double doors and it's uh

1308
01:00:42,069 --> 01:00:40,319
you're a child

1309
01:00:44,150 --> 01:00:42,079
uh at the time i was in high school i

1310
01:00:47,109 --> 01:00:44,160
was probably 17 or 18.

1311
01:00:50,309 --> 01:00:47,119
okay um

1312
01:00:53,190 --> 01:00:50,319
and i walk in there and it's a library

1313
01:00:55,670 --> 01:00:53,200
and there's a middle eastern guy

1314
01:00:57,349 --> 01:00:55,680
uh like behind the desk the rounded

1315
01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:57,359
desk

1316
01:01:02,150 --> 01:00:59,359
and with the turbine on and i go up

1317
01:01:04,710 --> 01:01:02,160
there and he hands me a scroll

1318
01:01:07,430 --> 01:01:04,720
and wow i have the scrolling as i'm

1319
01:01:09,190 --> 01:01:07,440
leaving the doors i'm opening it and i

1320
01:01:11,349 --> 01:01:09,200
see something that says

1321
01:01:13,190 --> 01:01:11,359
uh seven something

1322
01:01:14,150 --> 01:01:13,200
you know like seven this or seven

1323
01:01:15,910 --> 01:01:14,160
something

1324
01:01:17,910 --> 01:01:15,920
and then a big gust of wind came and

1325
01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:17,920
blew it out of my hands and it just blew

1326
01:01:22,870 --> 01:01:21,280
across the playground and that was it

1327
01:01:25,829 --> 01:01:22,880
i look over to whatever the hell did

1328
01:01:28,710 --> 01:01:25,839
that right and there's two huge

1329
01:01:31,190 --> 01:01:28,720
tornadoes coming at me

1330
01:01:34,069 --> 01:01:31,200
the tornadoes are coming at me and i

1331
01:01:35,829 --> 01:01:34,079
remember i had the option to run or you

1332
01:01:37,589 --> 01:01:35,839
know fight and

1333
01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:37,599
i decided to fight

1334
01:01:39,670 --> 01:01:38,400
you know

1335
01:01:41,589 --> 01:01:39,680
so i stayed

1336
01:01:44,470 --> 01:01:41,599
and let these tornadoes come at me and

1337
01:01:46,150 --> 01:01:44,480
when they came at me i had my hands open

1338
01:01:48,789 --> 01:01:46,160
both on each side of me and i grabbed

1339
01:01:51,589 --> 01:01:48,799
each one and crisscrossed them

1340
01:01:54,710 --> 01:01:51,599
across my body

1341
01:01:57,670 --> 01:01:54,720
and is that happening

1342
01:02:00,069 --> 01:01:57,680
um everything got completely

1343
01:02:03,349 --> 01:02:00,079
i was blinded by everything like i was

1344
01:02:04,230 --> 01:02:03,359
in the middle of a tornado i guess

1345
01:02:06,470 --> 01:02:04,240
um

1346
01:02:09,029 --> 01:02:06,480
but i was still

1347
01:02:12,390 --> 01:02:09,039
and all of a sudden i start lifting off

1348
01:02:14,630 --> 01:02:12,400
the ground like levitating and the weird

1349
01:02:15,829 --> 01:02:14,640
part about that is i flew in my dreams a

1350
01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:15,839
lot

1351
01:02:20,470 --> 01:02:18,640
so i knew how to activate that so to

1352
01:02:23,029 --> 01:02:20,480
speak in my dreams there is a feeling

1353
01:02:25,029 --> 01:02:23,039
connected to that like here we go

1354
01:02:27,349 --> 01:02:25,039
like i remember even trying it in my

1355
01:02:28,789 --> 01:02:27,359
waking life like i remembered the

1356
01:02:30,630 --> 01:02:28,799
feeling

1357
01:02:31,829 --> 01:02:30,640
that my feet would do or whatever but it

1358
01:02:33,190 --> 01:02:31,839
didn't work

1359
01:02:35,670 --> 01:02:33,200
um

1360
01:02:39,190 --> 01:02:35,680
but this one was not that i didn't do

1361
01:02:40,230 --> 01:02:39,200
that i just started raising on my own

1362
01:02:42,309 --> 01:02:40,240
or

1363
01:02:45,109 --> 01:02:42,319
you know not doing anything i just

1364
01:02:46,789 --> 01:02:45,119
started going up

1365
01:02:49,829 --> 01:02:46,799
so as this is happening i'm in the dust

1366
01:02:52,549 --> 01:02:49,839
storm or whatever tornado thing

1367
01:02:54,870 --> 01:02:52,559
and there's these light beings right

1368
01:02:56,309 --> 01:02:54,880
like uh angeli would describe i guess

1369
01:02:57,589 --> 01:02:56,319
light beings

1370
01:03:00,150 --> 01:02:57,599
um

1371
01:03:02,309 --> 01:03:00,160
and they're like little wisps

1372
01:03:05,750 --> 01:03:02,319
and they're flying past me in each

1373
01:03:10,549 --> 01:03:05,760
direction really fast

1374
01:03:14,150 --> 01:03:10,559
and what i hear is a very very beautiful

1375
01:03:16,710 --> 01:03:14,160
sound uh maybe like violin harp sound

1376
01:03:20,230 --> 01:03:16,720
most beautiful sound i

1377
01:03:22,230 --> 01:03:20,240
i ever heard i remember

1378
01:03:23,270 --> 01:03:22,240
just thinking what the hell is this it's

1379
01:03:24,950 --> 01:03:23,280
beautiful

1380
01:03:26,470 --> 01:03:24,960
um and

1381
01:03:28,309 --> 01:03:26,480
then i'm looking

1382
01:03:30,710 --> 01:03:28,319
things are clearing up

1383
01:03:32,789 --> 01:03:30,720
and i'm looking out into this guy i'm

1384
01:03:35,430 --> 01:03:32,799
still up in this guy

1385
01:03:37,270 --> 01:03:35,440
and i see a

1386
01:03:40,549 --> 01:03:37,280
stained glass

1387
01:03:44,230 --> 01:03:40,559
like window picture of what we know to

1388
01:03:48,710 --> 01:03:44,240
be jesus christ's face

1389
01:03:52,309 --> 01:03:48,720
okay and as i get closer to it

1390
01:03:54,230 --> 01:03:52,319
it turns into a real face

1391
01:03:55,829 --> 01:03:54,240
and says sean

1392
01:03:58,549 --> 01:03:55,839
just relax

1393
01:04:01,510 --> 01:03:58,559
and go back to school

1394
01:04:06,630 --> 01:04:03,750
that's incredible recall for a dream

1395
01:04:08,069 --> 01:04:06,640
dude yeah

1396
01:04:10,870 --> 01:04:08,079
that's wild

1397
01:04:13,109 --> 01:04:10,880
so um and i know that dreams are

1398
01:04:14,710 --> 01:04:13,119
something when my uncle passed away my

1399
01:04:17,109 --> 01:04:14,720
dad's twin brother

1400
01:04:19,750 --> 01:04:17,119
um i was sleeping

1401
01:04:21,589 --> 01:04:19,760
i had a dream that we were all in his

1402
01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:21,599
nursing home room

1403
01:04:27,270 --> 01:04:24,000
watching him uh pass

1404
01:04:29,510 --> 01:04:27,280
and i threw it like a golden bowl at him

1405
01:04:31,430 --> 01:04:29,520
and he sat straight up opened his eyes

1406
01:04:33,349 --> 01:04:31,440
and caught it

1407
01:04:35,829 --> 01:04:33,359
and the phone rang

1408
01:04:38,829 --> 01:04:35,839
and woke me up out of that dream and it

1409
01:04:40,549 --> 01:04:38,839
was a call that he had passed away

1410
01:04:45,029 --> 01:04:40,559
wow

1411
01:04:47,270 --> 01:04:45,039
so there's something there i know and

1412
01:04:49,349 --> 01:04:47,280
it's all this stuff it definitely is

1413
01:04:52,950 --> 01:04:49,359
it's always on my mind

1414
01:04:55,750 --> 01:04:52,960
you know that makes me kind of insular

1415
01:04:57,910 --> 01:04:55,760
at times no i hate it i hate it no it's

1416
01:04:59,270 --> 01:04:57,920
affected you it's affected you deeply

1417
01:05:00,870 --> 01:04:59,280
yeah i hear you

1418
01:05:02,549 --> 01:05:00,880
well you know you're not alone in this

1419
01:05:04,390 --> 01:05:02,559
bro there's a lot of people experience

1420
01:05:06,150 --> 01:05:04,400
this stuff and it shakes the foundations

1421
01:05:08,789 --> 01:05:06,160
of their world and and

1422
01:05:11,029 --> 01:05:08,799
and it's happening the fact that

1423
01:05:12,950 --> 01:05:11,039
there's been lying and cover up and and

1424
01:05:14,549 --> 01:05:12,960
ridicule about it is terrible there's a

1425
01:05:16,789 --> 01:05:14,559
terrible disservice to the people who

1426
01:05:17,829 --> 01:05:16,799
have experienced these things yeah you

1427
01:05:21,589 --> 01:05:17,839
know

1428
01:05:24,230 --> 01:05:21,599
i um yeah without too much of a reveal

1429
01:05:26,309 --> 01:05:24,240
without too much of a reveal i

1430
01:05:28,150 --> 01:05:26,319
i no longer but i have kind of worked in

1431
01:05:29,750 --> 01:05:28,160
the behavioral services before i'm not

1432
01:05:31,750 --> 01:05:29,760
licensed psychotherapist or anything

1433
01:05:34,230 --> 01:05:31,760
like that i just kind of worked in a

1434
01:05:35,109 --> 01:05:34,240
position where i would deal with

1435
01:05:38,390 --> 01:05:35,119
um

1436
01:05:41,910 --> 01:05:38,400
people in acute crisis shall we say yeah

1437
01:05:44,150 --> 01:05:41,920
again without too much reveal um

1438
01:05:46,549 --> 01:05:44,160
so it's a shame when there's no

1439
01:05:47,589 --> 01:05:46,559
resources for people to come and even

1440
01:05:51,750 --> 01:05:47,599
talk to

1441
01:05:53,430 --> 01:05:51,760
so do you know don't don't don't don't

1442
01:05:55,589 --> 01:05:53,440
don't give up this is you're not alone

1443
01:05:58,150 --> 01:05:55,599
in this kind of stuff no you're i find a

1444
01:06:00,549 --> 01:05:58,160
very unsung hero in my life spaghetti i

1445
01:06:02,309 --> 01:06:00,559
needed to talk about that you know and

1446
01:06:04,150 --> 01:06:02,319
you got it out of me well i could see it

1447
01:06:05,829 --> 01:06:04,160
dude i could see the vulnerability in

1448
01:06:07,829 --> 01:06:05,839
you and you i want to tell you something

1449
01:06:09,510 --> 01:06:07,839
else we'll swing a little we'll just

1450
01:06:11,670 --> 01:06:09,520
turn the car a little bit on the highway

1451
01:06:13,430 --> 01:06:11,680
here okay i'm proud of something that

1452
01:06:15,990 --> 01:06:13,440
you did that i didn't see any other

1453
01:06:19,190 --> 01:06:16,000
youtuber any other person do that you

1454
01:06:21,190 --> 01:06:19,200
did that i was both impressed by you

1455
01:06:23,109 --> 01:06:21,200
proud of you and happy for you and you

1456
01:06:23,990 --> 01:06:23,119
know what you did that nobody else has

1457
01:06:26,630 --> 01:06:24,000
done

1458
01:06:28,150 --> 01:06:26,640
you get avi love on your show and

1459
01:06:29,829 --> 01:06:28,160
everybody's got all the routine

1460
01:06:33,589 --> 01:06:29,839
questions and you

1461
01:06:36,470 --> 01:06:33,599
ask the man for personal advice yeah you

1462
01:06:39,029 --> 01:06:36,480
get a harvard professor and you do not

1463
01:06:41,589 --> 01:06:39,039
seize the opportunity ask the guy for

1464
01:06:43,510 --> 01:06:41,599
some personal advice dude i couldn't be

1465
01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:43,520
more proud of you that was impressive

1466
01:06:47,990 --> 01:06:46,000
that was really really cool thanks man

1467
01:06:49,589 --> 01:06:48,000
you know that it's it's stuff like that

1468
01:06:50,549 --> 01:06:49,599
amazing this guy's all right you're all

1469
01:06:52,150 --> 01:06:50,559
right

1470
01:06:53,750 --> 01:06:52,160
you're okay i might call you and harass

1471
01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:53,760
i might i might curse people out in your

1472
01:06:58,230 --> 01:06:55,920
chat room because i kind of like you

1473
01:07:00,230 --> 01:06:58,240
no but that was impressive bro

1474
01:07:02,230 --> 01:07:00,240
that took me to like whoa that's you

1475
01:07:04,630 --> 01:07:02,240
didn't see that coming you know oh you

1476
01:07:07,270 --> 01:07:04,640
have to you know i treat him like a man

1477
01:07:09,750 --> 01:07:07,280
like a person and who's done incredible

1478
01:07:10,870 --> 01:07:09,760
things that i'm genuinely curious about

1479
01:07:15,349 --> 01:07:10,880
you know

1480
01:07:18,069 --> 01:07:15,359
impressed with the question that i i

1481
01:07:19,910 --> 01:07:18,079
almost don't remember the answer

1482
01:07:22,630 --> 01:07:19,920
i don't remember what he said he

1483
01:07:24,789 --> 01:07:22,640
basically just said no you didn't keep

1484
01:07:26,630 --> 01:07:24,799
your pants on you know

1485
01:07:28,710 --> 01:07:26,640
like just wait till we get some proof

1486
01:07:30,230 --> 01:07:28,720
basically

1487
01:07:32,470 --> 01:07:30,240
but the fact that you had the presence

1488
01:07:34,789 --> 01:07:32,480
of mind to ask a guy with of that

1489
01:07:36,630 --> 01:07:34,799
caliber with those credentials

1490
01:07:38,789 --> 01:07:36,640
that level of achievement to ask him

1491
01:07:41,430 --> 01:07:38,799
that kind of question i thought was very

1492
01:07:43,349 --> 01:07:41,440
very cool very cool says a lot about

1493
01:07:45,589 --> 01:07:43,359
your character man thanks brother what

1494
01:07:47,109 --> 01:07:45,599
about your character thank you

1495
01:07:48,950 --> 01:07:47,119
i can tell right away you're not in it

1496
01:07:50,470 --> 01:07:48,960
for the popularity the likes the follows

1497
01:07:52,230 --> 01:07:50,480
the tweets the super chat so don't

1498
01:07:53,990 --> 01:07:52,240
forget to send the patreon and i'm going

1499
01:07:56,069 --> 01:07:54,000
to sell you a coffee mug there's a lot

1500
01:07:57,430 --> 01:07:56,079
of that out there bro it's

1501
01:08:02,230 --> 01:07:57,440
grotesque

1502
01:08:03,750 --> 01:08:02,240
okay i guess people gotta make a hustle

1503
01:08:05,510 --> 01:08:03,760
bro i don't mind people like making a

1504
01:08:07,750 --> 01:08:05,520
hustle it's all good

1505
01:08:09,589 --> 01:08:07,760
to me it's just a cause it's not a job

1506
01:08:11,750 --> 01:08:09,599
you know yeah says more about your

1507
01:08:14,150 --> 01:08:11,760
character and i like that i appreciate

1508
01:08:15,750 --> 01:08:14,160
it man all right man yeah

1509
01:08:18,070 --> 01:08:15,760
michael on the way

1510
01:08:20,550 --> 01:08:18,080
my mic's on the way okay so you'll be

1511
01:08:22,950 --> 01:08:20,560
able to see this pretty face on tv again

1512
01:08:24,709 --> 01:08:22,960
i can't wait 15 people that look at us

1513
01:08:27,349 --> 01:08:24,719
you may have to be my new full-time

1514
01:08:30,950 --> 01:08:28,789
all right well we'll discuss the

1515
01:08:33,349 --> 01:08:30,960
contracts later mr hollywood remember

1516
01:08:34,950 --> 01:08:33,359
i'm not in it for the monies

1517
01:08:37,189 --> 01:08:34,960
listen if you want to discuss something

1518
01:08:39,510 --> 01:08:37,199
here not well now when i show up it's

1519
01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:39,520
about the money that

1520
01:08:43,110 --> 01:08:40,560
not

1521
01:08:44,390 --> 01:08:43,120
totally we'll make your shirts

1522
01:08:46,229 --> 01:08:44,400
but yeah

1523
01:08:48,229 --> 01:08:46,239
no way we'll put the band back together

1524
01:08:50,390 --> 01:08:48,239
man you know you're a musician

1525
01:08:55,110 --> 01:08:50,400
i'm a terrible a terrible musician

1526
01:09:00,789 --> 01:08:58,149
harmonica and i can sing harmonies but i

1527
01:09:03,510 --> 01:09:00,799
play none of those instruments well

1528
01:09:05,990 --> 01:09:03,520
that's all as well yeah you're a utility

1529
01:09:09,510 --> 01:09:06,000
player

1530
01:09:11,669 --> 01:09:09,520
yeah yeah yeah but yeah yeah i guess i'm

1531
01:09:13,269 --> 01:09:11,679
good behind somebody who's better let's

1532
01:09:15,110 --> 01:09:13,279
put it that way

1533
01:09:16,950 --> 01:09:15,120
you know what i mean sure

1534
01:09:24,470 --> 01:09:16,960
yeah i've always had to be the better

1535
01:09:27,910 --> 01:09:26,550
you do your own music for the show right

1536
01:09:43,030 --> 01:09:27,920
yeah

1537
01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:44,630
you know dude as much as i know about

1538
01:09:49,910 --> 01:09:48,239
ufos music is my first thing really like

1539
01:09:51,669 --> 01:09:49,920
i'm not even kidding there's like music

1540
01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:51,679
for whatever it's not music that's my

1541
01:09:56,709 --> 01:09:54,000
passion but i don't talk about it i

1542
01:09:58,550 --> 01:09:56,719
don't go by records i just write music

1543
01:10:00,149 --> 01:09:58,560
you know it's kind of weird

1544
01:10:02,149 --> 01:10:00,159
i don't know well that's like when i

1545
01:10:03,669 --> 01:10:02,159
when i started playing guitar like i was

1546
01:10:05,189 --> 01:10:03,679
terrible at reading tablature and

1547
01:10:07,350 --> 01:10:05,199
playing other people's stuff i was

1548
01:10:08,950 --> 01:10:07,360
really good at making my own up

1549
01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:08,960
yeah you know what i mean i'm like but i

1550
01:10:12,550 --> 01:10:11,520
couldn't like all right let's play ac dc

1551
01:10:14,709 --> 01:10:12,560
and i'm like

1552
01:10:15,990 --> 01:10:14,719
okay but let's play ac dc done by like

1553
01:10:16,950 --> 01:10:16,000
the grateful dead because i want to go

1554
01:10:18,630 --> 01:10:16,960
this way

1555
01:10:19,910 --> 01:10:18,640
and no

1556
01:10:22,070 --> 01:10:19,920
you know

1557
01:10:23,590 --> 01:10:22,080
no you're fired no

1558
01:10:25,350 --> 01:10:23,600
what do you mean fire i'm the guy who

1559
01:10:28,630 --> 01:10:25,360
owns the house you're playing in mine's

1560
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:32,210
fire

1561
01:10:32,220 --> 01:10:37,189
[Laughter]

1562
01:10:40,709 --> 01:10:39,270
um yeah i'll talk to you more i mean i

1563
01:10:42,709 --> 01:10:40,719
consider coming on and doing some more

1564
01:10:45,110 --> 01:10:42,719
stuff with you for sure i'm a rookie at

1565
01:10:47,030 --> 01:10:45,120
a lot of this dude i'm looking at it man

1566
01:10:49,030 --> 01:10:47,040
i don't know social media is for

1567
01:10:51,350 --> 01:10:49,040
you don't have to do that i can do i

1568
01:10:53,189 --> 01:10:51,360
know you i can do the orchestrating you

1569
01:10:54,709 --> 01:10:53,199
just show up

1570
01:10:56,709 --> 01:10:54,719
yeah all right

1571
01:10:57,990 --> 01:10:56,719
yeah i just be like my girlfriends just

1572
01:10:59,830 --> 01:10:58,000
i told my girlfriend just stand there

1573
01:11:02,950 --> 01:10:59,840
and look good don't say anything i'm

1574
01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:04,950
i think doors won't open for you the

1575
01:11:08,709 --> 01:11:07,440
standards look good

1576
01:11:10,550 --> 01:11:08,719
all right dude let me go because my

1577
01:11:12,229 --> 01:11:10,560
phone's burning a hole in my head yeah

1578
01:11:20,470 --> 01:11:12,239
no problem i'm gonna get out of here

1579
01:11:25,990 --> 01:11:23,110
well there you go spaghetti

1580
01:11:29,750 --> 01:11:26,000
did a good good job and again made an

1581
01:11:33,430 --> 01:11:29,760
episode fantastic

1582
01:11:35,110 --> 01:11:33,440
so yeah um got to actually talk about my

1583
01:11:37,669 --> 01:11:35,120
story a little bit so maybe i'll clip

1584
01:11:39,590 --> 01:11:37,679
that up and and you know make it its own

1585
01:11:41,910 --> 01:11:39,600
thing for people who want to hear it

1586
01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:41,920
um i think i may share it more because i

1587
01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:44,560
didn't break into a bunch of cry baby

1588
01:11:46,630 --> 01:11:45,760
stuff

1589
01:11:51,030 --> 01:11:46,640
you know

1590
01:11:53,430 --> 01:11:51,040
about but i have in previous times

1591
01:11:56,550 --> 01:11:53,440
telling it and it's not easy to share

1592
01:11:58,630 --> 01:11:56,560
that with people so but unable to

1593
01:12:01,270 --> 01:11:58,640
keep it straight keep the eyes dry for

1594
01:12:03,430 --> 01:12:01,280
the most part i think i'll share it so i

1595
01:12:05,510 --> 01:12:03,440
really appreciate uh spaghetti you

1596
01:12:07,030 --> 01:12:05,520
calling in and getting that out of me

1597
01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:07,040
um because i do want to connect with

1598
01:12:09,430 --> 01:12:08,320
more people who've been through that

1599
01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:09,440
stuff

1600
01:12:14,149 --> 01:12:11,199
um

1601
01:12:15,669 --> 01:12:14,159
because yeah you feel alone a lot

1602
01:12:17,350 --> 01:12:15,679
so

1603
01:12:18,870 --> 01:12:17,360
we want to see the orbs yeah i'll show

1604
01:12:21,110 --> 01:12:18,880
you the the

1605
01:12:23,189 --> 01:12:21,120
i've shown it so many times

1606
01:12:25,350 --> 01:12:23,199
um

1607
01:12:26,950 --> 01:12:25,360
but

1608
01:12:29,110 --> 01:12:26,960
i guess that was a couple months ago

1609
01:12:31,110 --> 01:12:29,120
maybe

1610
01:12:33,030 --> 01:12:31,120
but um yeah

1611
01:12:35,110 --> 01:12:33,040
i'll share it with you i'll share with

1612
01:12:38,070 --> 01:12:35,120
you

1613
01:12:42,149 --> 01:12:39,750
time

1614
01:12:44,870 --> 01:12:42,159
thanks for showing up everyone i

1615
01:12:46,870 --> 01:12:44,880
appreciate you as always jess

1616
01:12:48,149 --> 01:12:46,880
uh thanks for showing up i'd love to

1617
01:12:49,430 --> 01:12:48,159
have you on

1618
01:12:51,510 --> 01:12:49,440
sometime

1619
01:12:53,350 --> 01:12:51,520
um zero cool

1620
01:12:55,910 --> 01:12:53,360
you're new i think to the show love

1621
01:12:59,510 --> 01:12:55,920
having you thank you

1622
01:13:01,430 --> 01:12:59,520
um right see cr

1623
01:13:03,110 --> 01:13:01,440
robert thank you

1624
01:13:05,270 --> 01:13:03,120
um chris

1625
01:13:11,350 --> 01:13:05,280
psych

1626
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,470
ben what's up

1627
01:13:18,550 --> 01:13:16,550
oh man yeah

1628
01:13:21,189 --> 01:13:18,560
that sounds like an emotional dream ben

1629
01:13:24,229 --> 01:13:21,199
sorry i'm just reading this comment here

1630
01:13:27,270 --> 01:13:24,239
uh yeah so sorry if i missed anybody

1631
01:13:28,310 --> 01:13:27,280
here i'm gonna get out here thanks chris

1632
01:13:31,350 --> 01:13:28,320
um

1633
01:13:33,189 --> 01:13:31,360
josh what's up thanks man

1634
01:13:36,070 --> 01:13:33,199
um hopefully we'll talk to you soon like

1635
01:13:37,830 --> 01:13:36,080
the video share it subscribe

1636
01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:37,840
all that stuff helps

1637
01:13:43,590 --> 01:13:41,280
um and that's all i ask everything else

1638
01:13:45,510 --> 01:13:43,600
is a bonus

1639
01:13:47,590 --> 01:13:45,520
have a great weekend maybe i'll see you

1640
01:13:50,630 --> 01:13:47,600
this weekend maybe i'll pop in at some

1641
01:13:51,669 --> 01:13:50,640
time maybe i won't we'll see

1642
01:13:53,270 --> 01:13:51,679
um

1643
01:13:53,990 --> 01:13:53,280
i probably will

1644
01:13:57,189 --> 01:13:54,000
but

1645
01:13:58,870 --> 01:13:57,199
those are randos and you can't count on

1646
01:14:02,229 --> 01:13:58,880
them

1647
01:14:06,149 --> 01:14:02,239
so um but yeah monday obviously back on

1648
01:14:08,229 --> 01:14:06,159
tuesday harry reid is in the house

1649
01:14:09,669 --> 01:14:08,239
cannot wait cannot wait to get harry

1650
01:14:10,790 --> 01:14:09,679
reading here

1651
01:14:13,270 --> 01:14:10,800
um

1652
01:14:16,390 --> 01:14:13,280
awesome so looking forward to that i'm

1653
01:14:19,110 --> 01:14:16,400
gonna study the out of that man

1654
01:14:20,149 --> 01:14:19,120
to make sure i got everything down

1655
01:14:21,910 --> 01:14:20,159
um

1656
01:14:24,390 --> 01:14:21,920
so it's a great

1657
01:14:26,790 --> 01:14:24,400
great interview

1658
01:14:28,950 --> 01:14:26,800
i appreciate you guys top podcasts know

1659
01:14:30,870 --> 01:14:28,960
it's teach their own everybody's got a

1660
01:14:32,470 --> 01:14:30,880
different taste and there's no wrongs or

1661
01:14:33,910 --> 01:14:32,480
rights

1662
01:14:36,870 --> 01:14:33,920
i appreciate you guys you guys are